I don't like the people (the developers). I don't like how the fork occured --- I see a lot of hypocrisy, hence I side with the other party.
i got to know him in '02/03, when i started to frequent irc and later to hack on xfree86:
First, i solved a problem, around which he spit incompetent advices at red-hat's bugzilla submitters. (like: install the new kernel). http://www.ruska.it/comp/activity/sawfish/key-repeating-bug/red_hat.html
a reading for him and context of those days
benh: oh, yes, did anybody ever understood xkb ?
keithp benh: xkb is a disaster.
.....
mmc: i like xkb
mharris: mmc: you haven't ever looked at it's source code then
mmc: i did
mmc: no comments in the code, though.
mharris: If you like the xkb source code, then we need to make sure you never get CVS write. ;o)
http://www.ruska.it/comp/activity/wiki/m1
undemocratic. A surprising rush to get away from xfree86. I like a clear explanation before rushing. Otherwise i think someone doesn't want my opinion.
-- apparently every "emerge sync" renames /var/db/pkg/x11-base/xfree-4.3.99.901-r4/ to /var/db/pkg/x11-base/xorg-x11-4.3.99.901-r4/
in order to remove all remaining xfree ebuilds.
keithp ACTION attends church so he'll live forever .... jg: fabbione: yes, keithp irc's. But it is Sunday morning, and he's often tied up with kids and church.I don't like people who spend time with church. I spend that time with http://www.wsws.org, which is much different.
http://keithp.com/~keithp/talks/usenix2000/smart.html
mmc: MrCooper: is it your comment on http://lwn.net/Articles/157225/? cached Where could I get the ATI Docs?
anholt mmc: hah!
MrCooper mmc: yes, it's my comment, but notice the 'not too long ago'
mmc: MrCooper: i did notice of course. My question is if the docs are/were available to anybody or only to (sorry for word play) "ATI provided
...engineer"s ?
MrCooper mmc: only via NDA, which was to all XFree86 members in the old days and to individual developers more recently
MrCooper mmc: my point is that in contrast to nVidia, ATI has encouraged fully free drivers, but most people didn't seem to care
so it doesn't seem to be a competitive advantage
libv there's many, many people working on ati code, while other drivers are by and large ignored except for a lone coder left or right
MrCooper hence we are where we are now
libv Exa is the best example
MrCooper libv: sure, but it doesn't have any measurable impact on SALES
libv because everyones buying older ati hardware off ebay
MrCooper it didn't even when the cards were current
MrCooper if it did, ATI would have continued its support
nim I'm buying new ATI cards because of the open doc
MrCooper nim: cool, but you're the exception unfortunately
libv nim: which open doc?
nim I know. It sucks doing the right thing without reaping much rewards
nim The open doc on NDA :)
libv then it's not open
nim But at least it's available to driver authors
nim If I restricted myself to really open docs I wouldn't have any gfx card in my system
libv heh
libv i never signed an nda, and i do have unichrome docs
libv legally
nim How can I say it...
nim If via hardware was a bit better it wouldn't be a problem
libv heh
nim But When I build a new system I want some bang for my bucks
libv then why bother about docs
libv why bother about free software?
I highlighted the "not open", as that's my opinion too.